this saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.
despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.
i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!
Just to add to my comment above, I personally find that the arguments/comments made by the atheists here seem more convincing to me than a belief in.... (insert God, Jesus, Bible, religion, etc.) I don't completely dismiss all the believers thoughts, I just can't seem to connect any longer.
CoC
this saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.
despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.
i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!
I read more on this forum than I can, or care to, comment on. But I realize now for a fact that I can no longer classify myself as a believer.
Not targeting anyone or any comment in specific here on this thread, but I've seen it expressed by some believers that certain parts of the Bible can not be trusted. If that's the case, who decides what can be trusted, and what should be disagreed with?
The question is off topic, I know. I just can't wrap my head around getting to know Christ when most ways other than the Bible seem to be assumed. And we all know what happens when you assume........?
CoC
haven't seen this posted yet.
if it has been, i apologize.... but this is great.
bill's new rule from friday.. enjoy!.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing undercover!
Although I am aware that Bill Maher's Religulous was heavily edited, I still truly enjoyed it. I've really liked him since.
I don't have HBO so I don't normally watch his show. But I find him funny, and I like how straightforward he is.
CoC
i couldn't find a window on which to post in xtreemlyconfused17's acts 15 thread, so i'm responding here.
some elder claimed that acts 15 shows the existence of a first century governing body.. quite the opposite!.
let's back up to acts 13. there, the holy spirit called saul (paul) and barnabas to missionary work.
Great point Hoffnung!
though i no longer believe the fds is indeed appointed by god, i guess because of what has been taught to me all these years through the wtbts, i still make an effort to try and look at both sides.
and then i come across this number below, which is how i arrived at my title for this thread.
***w81 2/15 p.19 do we need help to understand the bible?***.
BUMP!!
first century governing body?the watchtower claims that a formal governing body was established in the first century, which is used as the basis for how the governing body of the watchtower society operate today.. "while all anointed christians collectively form god's household, there is abundant evidence that christ chose a small number of men out of the slave class to serve as a visible governing body.
the early history of the congregation shows that the 12 apostles, including matthias, were the foundation of the first-century governing body.
" - watchtower 1990 mar 15 p.11 the term "governing body" is 'loaded language' as it never appears in the scriptures and so has unique application within the pages of the watchtower.
Ooh! How did I miss this thread? LOL
Thanks Lady Liberty!
CoC
i couldn't find a window on which to post in xtreemlyconfused17's acts 15 thread, so i'm responding here.
some elder claimed that acts 15 shows the existence of a first century governing body.. quite the opposite!.
let's back up to acts 13. there, the holy spirit called saul (paul) and barnabas to missionary work.
Thanks Ding! Interesting reading.
CoC
this saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.
despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.
i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!
NewChapter, I have nothing to add except to say that I really enjoy the openness and honesty of your posts.
I can definitely say I'm agnostic, but atheism somewhat seems like a better fit for me. Your posts are more convincing to me in that regard, in comparison to a "believer's" point of view. I know your purpose is not to "convert" someone to atheism, but I find your thought process mentally stimulating. I lean towards what makes sense to me, and this seems to be it.
I just wanted to say that. I appreciate your awesome comments.
CoC
this saying permeates this forum with higher frequency than most.
despite being an open atheist amongst lots of religious people in my life, i have never been accused of doing this and i have never heard this saying attributed to my choice... appart from here.. i thought it would be best to clarify why i (and i assume others) decided to leave the bible behind after leaving the wt society.. realising the wt society was wrong desroyed my world, for me it meant so much.
i had given so much to it too, it just had to be true!
Well said in the OP snare&racket.
Now I just need to read through the rest of the thread.
so i made a couple of comments on my older brother's fb and i think i might have gone too far.. a little background.
my brother is a pretty popular guy... i am about a year younger than him and although we currently live on opposite coasts of the us., i know most of his jw friends.
he has about 600 fb friends and is on his page daily making announcements on there as if he's ashton kutcher talking to his fans....or something.
The sound of disappointment........
